I think selling a big bike to a newbie is irresponsible. Discuss (25 Marks)


I think selling a big bike to a newbie is irresponsible. Discuss (25 Marks)



  1. Experience is built with practice and is necessary for everything in life. You apply for a job, the first thing the employer is looking for is your experience. I agree with Daniel Danzo Mutunga on this. Its not just about the newbie, its also about the upgrade after first bike. While we appreciate the different capabilities just like in school the class was the same, teachers the same, syllabus same but we had some get 80% others 20% in the same subject, its good to take time to evaluate the rider before you hand them an above 400cc bike. How they ride, their attitude to riding, where they ride, how often they ride are key questions to help evaluate a rider and their capability to handle a machine. #amwithDanzoonthisone

  2. …em…my first ride was a DT250..My VERY first ride…my next memorable ride was a Suzuki GT 500 Triple….Then I later bought a Suzuki GL 750 custom…followed by a Suzuki GS 750S…followed by a Yamaha XS 1100…I now own and ride a Honda ST 1100, a BMW GS800F, and a Yamaha TDM 850 Mk1. …am I the guy to ask about starter bikes?? I started riding waaaay above my weight and have never stopped…I DO NOT However recommend my route to riding notoriety. .start small and grow bigger..go at a steady pace and be safe.

  3. started with a Z650 myself,.saw it rotting somewhere in a pile of junk and I loved her, asked if they could sell her to me n they agreed, we started her with a car battery, I payed them n off I rode,..but i later downsized to a 400 that am now looking to go maaaad with to a liter plus engine

  4. Even for cars its the same. Seen what has been happening with Subarus and those powerful speed Mitsubishis? We are lucky not to have the speed monstors available and affordable here coz that would be the same story. Personally i will not take a car for the first time and head out on a long distance drive. I check its health and test drive to get accustomed to its performance i.e braking and all.

  5. This one sijui ntapata marks ngapi? Coz I do believe if you have the passion to Ride! Have seen Newbie climbing the gate na 125cc dawn just like that Vruum! And also here Newbie Big Cc alikula kona na kona ikamkona! @ Danzo if you have passion you take it slow till you blend with Your bike

  6. Daniel Danzo Mutunga the police stations and insurance yards are littered with written-off turbo charged wrecks. Most of which were statistically owned by first time drivers..😁😁😁. So does the question also apply to ‘what type’ and not just CC’s? Think about cruisers, hardly an accident yet most begin from 600cc… Just wondering…

  7. Then again Daniel Danzo Mutunga, I know guys in the Superbike fraternity who flately refused to sell their bikes to newbie’s. One of my biker brothers regretted selling once, bike didn’t last two days and it was because the buyer (who was thankfully not quite injured) never said or admitted to being a newbie. Talked like a pro….

  8. this topic again ….be it a 50cc money bike or a 1000cc bike if ride like a A-hole it will put you down it’s u as a person and ur mind set ….if u belive starting on a small bike is wat makes u a good rider ur wrong……..u can b on a “small or big” bike for years and sit on a high or lower bike n it brakes u just becouse u underestimate or toooooo confident…

  9. Big power plus noob(male) equals disaster.
    People have started on big cc bikes and they were fine. A big bike won’t kill you if you respect it.

    But one day you’re leisurely brapping along. You stop at a red light…a Subaru pulls up next to you. His low self esteem triggers his right foot to floor the pedal. You hear a loud BRAAAP TWA! TWA! Suddenly your blood stream is filled with testosterone and bad decisions. IT’S ON…

    You look at him and his eyes call you a fag. In your mind he becomes your ex girlfriend’s new boyfriend. You twist the throttle, light turns green and you dump the clutch. You’re off, after a few seconds you can barely see him in your rear view mirror
    Next thing you hear is a loud bang followed by the sound of breaking bones as you hit the ground.

    Next sound is either an ambulance siren or angels singing. The subie is gone

    So yes it’s irresponsible….for the buyer.

    Where are my 25 points?

  10. Whether one is a newbie or is experienced, we are all and continue to learn and sharpen our skills on two wheels. I took the route of buying my then dream bike, GSXR 1000. Did a lot of riding with a bike club that always positioned me well in rides and also rode “within” my limitations. Training and safety classes whenever I could and always respecting the bike. I knew that once I thought I was better than the bike is when I would lose and or dump it. Also a big factor on not having the desire to speed on the roads is being able to open up the bike on the track; controlled environment with no cars. Maxed out at 188mph at about 7000rpms. No desire to ever do that again.

  11. My two-sense. It has nothing to do with the bike be it cc or type. It has everything to do with you as a person…i.e the one selling the bike his or her opinions and feelings respected. As for newbies the best we can do is to advice them on the pros and cons of say getting exited over throttling and the dangers of not judging adequate braking and such other stuff. At the end of the day one buys what they desire newbie or not. Let us try a different approach..perhaps??

  12. I would do so; only if the person of interest realizes the value of respect for the machine..Bigger bikes are actually more responsive and stable but each bike is different to everyone riding it for the first time no matter the riders experience.

  13. From the feelings flying around here it’s clear newbies do not take kindly to some sellers’ responsible business practices. Fine. How about we meet on the middle: you enrol for riding class and go all the way to Advanced rider level and once your trainer deems you are well INFORMED on the lifestyle you are taking up then we’re good to go with the sale. You don’t have to be on a pro level, you just need total awareness and some good skills.
    Truth is motorcycles are dangerous. You tend to take things for granted until you wipe out at 200+ kph. Ask me about it. The isle of man and moto gp are always claiming very highly trained and experienced professionals. Keeps in mind that they die in open tracks closed to all other vehicles.
    In other news, I have a 2003 R1 for sell at 450k, fully registered. Good day

  14. …let me catch that pass and run with it a bit… Ray Mwendwa…you are touching on something here that can really help… You see, somehow, we riders groups and riders in general should Shepherd new riders whenever we can get to them in time. ..a bit like how Alcoholics Anonymous has “Sponsors” A person that someone feels safe to talk to if they are having trouble coping with abstinence…likewise for rider groups and individual riders..maybe a forum consisting of dealers and riders who volunteer to stick to a set of standards that may require a rider to have proved their competence by attending a riding course before they up-grade from that sub-litre buzz rocket.

  15. Yes people are different but also with great power comes great responsibility. Generally speaking, it’s dangerous to entrust great power to one who has no experience on how to handle it. …”the right wrist has a mind of its own” applies especially to newbies.